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Léonard a écrit:Témoignage d'un pilote US qui a préféré amérir sur le lac en dernier virage d'un aéroport un peu short avec quelques maisons à chaque extrémité :
As the pilot of that poor deceased plane let me offer a couple lessons learned and points to consider:
1. When flying over big water put your life jackets on (everyone) before you get over the water...there is no time to don life jackets when your engine quits 400 feet above the water.
2. If you have an inflatable life boat, you will never get it out of the plane unless you have a competent co-piolt (not someone in the back of the plane) who can self-escape and still maintain control of the life boat. It's too much to expect the middle seat passengers to do anything except escape.
3. When you do your "over water briefing" make specific assignments as to who is to do what and who is responsible to assit who if necessary.
4. If you ever wondered how long it takes for a Cessna 210 to sink (I always did), these are my estimates. It took about 10 seconds for the water to rise to my knees as I was seated. When I open the pilot door it took about 3 seconds for the water to rise over my head. Once the plane's wings settled on the water it floated briefly. The forward cabin was full to the ceiling and water continued to fill the rest to the empennage. Then the nose and wings went in leaving the tail high in the air (seemed high from water level)until the tail dropped in too (watch out for the tail). Total time from touch down to disappearance might have been 1 1/2 minutes.
5. After observing the effort it took to get four people out I don't think six people could have made it out. I will never take six passengers over big water (Great Lakes, Gulf etc.)
I was originally configured for landing, 30 degrees flaps, gear down, etc., but I did retract my gear once I committed to a "water-landing". When I saw the ferry boat I aimed for landing at water in front of the ferry dock. Slow near-stall speed and a flare for tail-low touchdown made for a suprisingly forgiving landing.
Avec des précisions ...
1. The plane is a 1977 turbo model M with single shoulder restraints in the front and lap belts only in the back
2. The water was realatively calm. There were rolling waves about 1 to 2 ft high with some reflective chop caused by the structures and shore nearby.
3. I'll try my best to describe the landing forces. With a tail low touchdown, the landing felt like it had two parts. the first part was when the tail grabbed the water it created a rapid deceleration, like I had snagged a huge bungee cord or like when you put the brakes on real hard to catch that taxiway that you should probably pass up. There was no discomfort. Immediately the rest of the plane touched down and when the nose dipped low enough to dig in, or when it caught a wave, the plane stopped more forcefully. The last part was more forceful, but it still was not enough to cause any bruising or pain due to the seatbelts or shoulder restraints. That's true for all four of us. I can best describe it by saying my first instantaneous thought was "That's not so bad", followed by the instant recognition that I was positive no one suffered any injury from the landing forces.
4. The prop was windmilling most of the way down, but I don't know if it ever stopped.
5. One passenger (co-pilot seat)went into what I would describe as a panic attack. I un-buckled her seat belt and reached across to open her door first, but it would not open. When we got the pilot door open the water rushed in so fast that the passenger became very frantic and pulled away from me. I exited the cabin because it was now full of water and the middle seat passengers came out at the same time immediately behind me. The two passengers from the middle seats grabbed onto the wing of the plane. I was going to attempt to re-nter the cabin to get the passenger that had not exited when through the side window I could see her flailing around near the back seat. I reached through the luggage door and pulled her out through the luggage compartment.
6. Yes, I spent 3 years in the Army and 25 years in the Fire Department. My good friend who was in the middle seat is also a retired firefighter. He not only did not panic, but he insured that he did not let go of the other middle seat passenger(a 21 year girl that could not swim)when he exited behind me.
Léo
Léonard a écrit:Témoignage d'un pilote US qui a préféré amérir sur le lac en dernier virage d'un aéroport un peu short avec quelques maisons à chaque extrémité :................

Léonard a écrit:
As the pilot of that poor deceased plane...........
fly33 a écrit:Léonard a écrit:
As the pilot of that poor deceased plane...........
Did he run out of fuel ?
Un lien pour l'histoire complète ?
razorback a écrit:en gros c'est ça je suis bon en english...
(et surtout y a un tas de traducteur sur le net ...)
pi toute façon la flemme de tout traduire comme il faut....
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